Did Neil "zero out" in the 80s?

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Did Neil "zero out" in the 80s?

Postby Lep » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:18 am

Barabajagal, in another thread, wrote:Hey, every major artist (except Neil Young) zeroed out in the 80s.

I think many would disagree.

Hawks And Doves - 1980
Reactor - 1981
Trans - 1982
Everybody's Rockin' - 1983
Old Ways - 1985
Landing On Water - 1986
Life - 1987
This Note's For You - 1988
American Dream (CSNY) - 1988
Eldorado - 1989
Freedom - 1989

I was going through my Neil-could-shit-in-a-paper-bag-and-I-would-buy-it phase in the early 80s, and I quite liked the albums from 80-83, and even Landing on Water.

I wouldn't mind having a copy of Trans even now, but I thing a lot of people would say the 80s were a washout for Neil, with Freedom as the beginning of Neil's 90s.

What say ye?

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Postby D. Phillips » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:39 am

Hawks And Doves - 1980
Good, especially the acoustic side with "Captain Kennedy" being a Neil classic and a standout on any album.
Reactor - 1981
Interesting feedback, but nothing I listen to ever. Got Mashed Poatatoes!
Trans - 1982
Great in theory, not so great in execution.
Everybody's Rockin' - 1983
Ugh! Another Boomer struggling with getting older.
Old Ways - 1985
Some very cool country songs on this album. Not as great as Comes a Time, but a good album just the same.
Landing On Water - 1986
Life - 1987
Um, no.
This Note's For You - 1988
A peak at Neil's attitude to come in the 90s. He gets points for that alone.
American Dream (CSNY) - 1988
The beginning of the CSNY reunion disappointment. Stills has NO ear for guitar tones anymore and Nash's trite songwriting is tiresome. Thank God for David Crosby.
Eldorado - 1989
The only Neil album I am not familiar with. Not released in the US though parts of it ended up elsewhere.
Freedom - 1989
I agree with Lep that this is the start of the 90s, not just for Neil, but for everyone. It is the dawn of Grunge.

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Postby Lep » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:49 am

D. Phillips wrote:Thank God for David Crosby.

I can't say that I've ever heard that sentence before.

So for for you DP, sounds definitely like a wash, with a good beginning (that could be really the tail of the 70s) and a promising end.

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Postby Barabajagal » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:09 am

Eh...no, you're right, Lep. My decade-awareness had me throwing Neil's late-70s stuff into the 80s output. The early 80s was when I started getting into Neil and some of that stuff still seemed pretty fresh.

Shit, what 60s holdover did not suck in the 80s?

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Postby Lep » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:25 am

Now, we just have to wait for Jake to come in and say how great Trans and Everybody's Rockin' are.

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Postby D. Phillips » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:25 am

Lep wrote:I can't say that I've ever heard that sentence before.

So for for you DP, sounds definitely like a wash, with a good beginning (that could be really the tail of the 70s) and a promising end.


If nothing else, Crosby has a good spirit. I love that dude.

And yeah, I like the way you put that. There was the end of the 70s - the 80s (awful) - and the beginning of the 90s. Neil seemed to use a whole decade as a transitional time.

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Postby D. Phillips » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:26 am

Lep wrote:Now, we just have to wait for Jake to come in and say how great Trans and Everybody's Rockin' are.


He'll absolutely defend Trans. It's his party trick.

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Postby Jake » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:48 am

I do love Trans, but I think Neil pussied out by not going all the way with it. The worst songs on Trans are the lame non-electronic Crazy Horse songs ("Like an Inca"). But the version of "Mr. Soul" on Trans is one of my favorite versions of the song ever, and of course, lyrically it's once again a big "fuck you" to all the people trying to tell Neil what he's supposed to sound like: "Is it strange I should change? I don't know..." It just sounds cool. Especially on vinyl. Synth always sounds better on vinyl.

I also love love love Old Ways. The rest of that 80s stuff, not so much. Except Freedom which should be considered a 90s album.

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Postby Stu Nahan » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:08 pm

I am a huge fan of his work but I don't like most of the 80's records. I give him major credit for doing what he wanted and trying different things. However, it is a lot of failed experiments and mediocre records that have some great songs on them. Freedom righted the ship and led to the excellent early 90's records like Ragged Glory and Harvest Moon.

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Postby worpswede » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:56 pm

Gotta go with "Freedom" and "Eldorado" for sure and "Trans" for effort. I remember liking "This Note's For You" for a spell and I could have sworn that "Landing On Water" had a good song or two. I haven't listened to this album in almost twenty years. Is my memory worn? Is it a complete piece of shit?


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