Tom4 wrote:I feel it's kind of pointless when a sizable portion of the membership is ignoring what I say because I'm younger than y'all or I happen to really like a record that Pitchfork recently liked as well.
I think I understand some of what you’re saying, particularly in the worry about sounding like you may be sounding repetitive with other reviewers and/or sites. I think Jake chastised me once when I felt that way, effectively saying for me to ignore what everyone else was writing and write what you feel. I still have times when I’ll visit a site after I’ve written a review, notice that we have raised similar points and feel weird about it, but you know what, I can sleep well knowing that what I wrote was based on what I felt about it at the time. If I dig something, I know that others may not view it the same way, but I can count on Jake to throw up an MP3 or something so that you can take my shit with a real grain of salt: a song or two from the real thing that lets you know if you’d feel the same way that I did.
Tom4 wrote:I feel since some of you have adopted the same holier-than-thou stance you criticize hipsters for. Not all, again, but enough…this board has philosophically closed its doors to new members. In the process, the members it has have had life get in the way of allowing them to sustain the board on their own.
I get the last line, but not the first. How do most of you talk to your immediate brethren about music? In my circle, there’s a ton of ribbing, holier than thou posturing, and good-natured arguing. Lurker will love that I name-checked him here, but the issue wasn’t his love of Mariah…it was this attitude that some of us dismissed her because she had some huge hits recently and I’ll be damned if I can recall any of them. The association was that I/we had gotten to old and that she shouldn’t be dismissed as a result. My argument was that if she had a hit that remained on the top of the charts for as long as it did, doesn’t one think that I’d at least hear it and be sick of it? The big picture is how fragmented everything is. I don’t listen to radio, MTV doesn’t play videos, there’s so many television options now, the act of listening to music has become so isolated and personalized…it has nothing to do with my age that I haven’t heard these songs! The chart system is irrelevant! So there’s the argument, and what a discussion we could have had! Instead, Lurker takes the low road, calls everyone elitist and old, so there’s no discussion, no good-natured ribbing, just mean-spirited bullshit that seems to have prevented you from adding your two cents.
I refuse to believe that the door is closed philosophically, new members would certainly help me filter out the hype with the real shit. I would hate to think that we have to censor ourselves to the point where we’re no longer allowed to give someone a hard time for liking Mariah, April Wine, or Limp Bizkit (jesus!) while understanding that you can’t just start calling someone an asshole without bringing up some good, valid points as to why you’re doing so.
As one of the oldest members of this board, I try very hard not to fall into that category of sticking with things that are familiar. I hope you don’t feel that my comments/reviews/whatever are based in some blinder view of the past with no interest in what’s happening today. Personally, I want to know what my high school heroes and colligate favorites are doing now, and I sure as hell want to know where the next Ramones are going to be. That’s why I need you to help. I may not share your feelings about Fleet Foxes or whatever, but I can appreciate your opinion and want to be able to argue with you (with respect!) about why I don’t feel the same way.
One final thing, I’ve stopped giving a shit about the number of comments on a review. Jake likes to stir the pot sometimes, and I’m game for any debate, but if no one says jack shit, then it doesn’t bother me as much as it seems to bother other regular posters. Besides, the only replies my reviews get anyway are usually the work of a Sven character