Putting your money (i.e., time) where your mouth is...

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Putting your money (i.e., time) where your mouth is...

Postby Jake » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:32 am

Any of you guys done any of this "get out the vote" calling?

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Postby Sugarcubes Forever » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:19 am

In years past I've done my share of get out the vote phone bank work. Both for the Democratic party and also for several interest groups.

I've always found it tedious and frustrating. Most of the time people dont' seem to want to be bothered by the phone call. And I wonder if it's even effective for people under the age of 50. (I don't even have a home phone.) I don't answer my cell if I don't recognize the number. I know several people who screen their home phone with caller ID and do the same.

I got more than half a dozen get out the vote texts yesterday and several each day for the week leading up to Nov 2.

I appreciate the texts a lot more than the phone calls. But you don't need a phone bank to do that. One dude in India can just push the 'enter' key on his PC and it's a done deal.

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Postby DJMurphy » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:57 am

I'm so cynical right now... I used to be a "get out the vote" kind of guy until yesterday; now I have a new motto: STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T VOTE!! If the ones who previously didn't vote are the same fucktards who elected the Tea Party knuckleheads, I really wish they had stayed home.

And no, the Democrats are very guilty for this shift of power, too. Sheesh. There goes the neighborhood...

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Postby Jake » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:25 am

I don't feel as bad as I did in 2004, ha ha.

DP said it best in a POLJUNK tweet a couple weeks ago: "Independent" voters appear to be wishy-washy dopes who are easily influenced by consistent (if untrue) messaging.

I'm just very, very thankful for Nate Silver and his 538 crew for preparing for this outcome months in advance. He gets my vote for Uprightstanding Citizen of 2010.

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Postby Sugarcubes Forever » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:50 pm

There really aren't any "independent" voters. Typically they tend to favor one party or another whether they acknowledge it or not.

IMO, people who claim to be independents are the least informed voters. And they tend to be too heavily influenced by propaganda (campaign advertising).

Despite the never ending media narrative that Independents swing elections, it's really not true. The party bases decide elections. Yesterday the Democratic base didn't show in the numbers they needed to hold the House.

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Postby DJMurphy » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:07 pm

Jake, your guy Nate Silver is on Olberman tonight.

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Postby Sugarcubes Forever » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:41 am

[url=http://alterx.blogspot.com/2010/11/letter-to-whiny-young-democrat.html]Letter to a whiny young Democrat!
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Check it out, kiddo: This is not just any Republican party you allowed back into power; these mealy folks are not anything like the war-hungry, Bush-tainted army of flying monkeys and Dick Cheney moose knuckles you so wonderfully helped bury in the history books last election.

No, the GOP of 2010-2011 is even weirder, dumber, less interested in anything you even remotely care about; this GOP is infused like a sour cocktail with a bitter splash of the most cartoonish, climate change-denying Tea Party dingbats imaginable -- most of whom think you're an elitist, terrorist-loving, gay-supporting threat to "real" American values, btw -- all led by a guy named Boehner who wears a bizarre, shellacked tan so fake and creepy it makes Nancy Pelosi looks like a supermodel.

And you made it all happen. Or rather, you failed to prevent it from happening, by not voting, by turning your collective back on Obama's tough love, by getting all whiny and dejected like some sort of sullen teen vampire who can't get laid.


Look, I'm sorry. I know I'm being far too hard on you. Of course it's not just you. It's not completely your fault these dimwit Repubs were allowed to ooze back into a bit of power so soon. As many analysts have pointed out, this wasn't a vote for the Republicans, but against the limp-wristed Dems who didn't step up and lead with more authority and clarity of purpose. Truly, libs and independents of every age are frustrated Obama isn't governing with the same kind of magical, balls-out visionary zeal that fueled his campaign.

And let's not forget a shockingly unintelligent Tea Party movement that stands for exactly nothing and fears exactly everything, all ghost-funded by a couple of creepy libertarian oil billionaires -- the leathery old Koch brothers -- who eat their young for a snack. Who could've predicted that gnarled political contraption would hold water? But hey, when Americans are angry and nervous, they do stupid things. Like vote Republican. It happens. Just did.


So here's what you need to know, right now: Barack Obama is, and will continue to be, a bit of goddamn miracle. He's simply as good as we're going get for an articulate, thoughtful, integrity-rich Democratic prez in your lifetime. Period. To hamstring his administration out of spite and laziness is childish and sad. Check the accomplishments. Understand the process. Deal with the messiness.

It will never be perfect. It will never be giddy liberal nirvana, because it doesn't work that way. Politics is corrosive and infuriating, de facto and by definition, even with someone as thoughtful as Obama in the Big Chair. Understand it. Deal with it. Get back in the game. If you don't, we all lose.

Your choice, kiddo.


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Postby Jake » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:29 am

The whole article is great.

Did you see the polls and studies that said that most fresh-faced, Obama-swooning Dems like you are now refusing to support our beloved Nazi Muslim president because he didn't wish-fulfill your every whim in a week? That he was, in fact, not quite the instant-gratification SuperJesus of your (or rather, our) dreams?

Of course you didn't see any of that. Hell, I bet you're not even reading this column right now. You're probably back on Twitter, raging into the Void about, hell, who knows what? The Wolf Parade concert. Angry Birds. The People of Wal-Mart. Anything but politics, really.

But hey, whatevs, right? Screw it. Screw him. After all, the prez let you down. Conveniently "forgot" to include you in the dialogue, after a major election that you helped him win. Where were the outreach programs? The campus speaking tours? Weekly appearances on "The Daily Show"? Legal pot and gay marriage and discounts tickets to SXSW and Burning Man and Coachella? I want my goddamn political perks, and I want them now.

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Postby Sugarcubes Forever » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:05 am

Back in 2004 there was a lot of board action in here when Dubya got reelected. With one of the smallest winning margins in history, the SOB started bragging about his Right Wing Mandate to wage war and screw us all. The media narrative then (and now) was that Democrats blew it. And a lot of so called "liberal commentators" gang piled on the Democratic Party that year.

I said it then and I'll say it now. The problem with Liberals isnt' their policies, their stand on the issues or mostly even their candidates. The problem with Liberals is a general defeatist attitude. Not all of them. But a lot of them in Washington, specifically the "moderates" who spend all their time trying not to anger the Bigots and Fear Mongers who don't vote for them anyway.

Democrats and Liberals need to grow some balls. Man up! This shit is ugly, dirty, rough. You gotta take a hit.

You wanna see an example of that? Harry Reid! Yeah, that's right. The limp turd that pissed us all off by dragging his feet in the Senate and failing to get the Democrats in line on a whole lot of legislation. The guy might have been responsible for watering down the Health Care overhaul. But he got more through than anybody in history.

He won reelection you know. How? He got dirty. He went out in the street early and got his people behind him in Nevada. When the Teabaggers called him soft on "illegal immigrants" he went straight to the Latinos and said, "you guys gotta back me or this broad is gonna come after you." When she called him an Elitist Liberal he ran adds saying she was a bat shit crazy lunatic. When she attacked his record in the Senate he reminded Nevada that her friends in the Teapublican party ran the country into the ground. Harry Reid got the troups out on the streets. Door to door. On the phones. She brought a knife to a gun fight and Harry Reid brought a Democratic old school political machine gun.

You don't win by being a pussy. Americans, unlike the French, don't like losers. Americans like a winner. So stand up straight after you get punched in the gut. Take a deep breath and say, "Is that all you got?" Then spit in the other guy's face and punch the fucker in the eye!
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Postby D. Phillips » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:52 pm

You're talking like Rahm, man. I love it.


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